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Dialog 1 to 4 + Contour 1 to 3

By far the most common controls on the FP NC machines were the Dialog 1, Dialog 2, Dialog 3, Dialog 4 and Contour 1, Contour 2, and Contour 3 controls.

For reasons not yet understood Dialog and Contour controls are almost completely equivalent. More on that later.

The controls represent increasingly higher development levels, but because they were used on different machines with different mechanical possibilities, different controls were available concurrently, which means that for example a Contour 1 was still available long after a Contour 3 was introduced.


 Dialog 1  
 Dialog 2  Contour 1
 Dialog 3  Contour 2
 Dialog 4  Contour 3


Tidbits:

Tool changer machines appear to never have come with a Dialog 4 control  but had Contour 3 and later Dialog 11 controls instead. Previous to 1985 earlier controls were used.

Contour 3 had only 128 K memory, compared to the Dialog 4's 256 K (without add-on memory board).

Contour controls have square keys, Dialog controls have round keys.

 

Capabilities:

 

Dialog 1:

- Circular interpolation

- drilling cycles

- linear pocket milling

- rounding of corners

- smooth approach

- subroutines

- internal cornering

- tool compensation

- playback

- 4th axis

99 allowable tool compensation numbers, 24KB storage, 20mA/V24 interface with 300 baud

 

Dialog 2/Contour 1 (in addition to above):

- polar coordinates

- rotary offsetting

- hole patterns

- circular pocket and pin milling

- feed optimization for contouring

- 3D contouring control with linear interpolation in 3 out of 4 axis

 

Dialog 3/Contour 2 (in addition to above):

- irregular contour pocketing

- simplified thread milling

- graphic display (can be activated by dip switch)

RS 232 introduced.

 

Dialog 4/Contour 3 (in addition to above):

- DNC capability as an option.

- basic memory 256 K (Contour 3 128K)

- Extended memory (512 K) as an option.

- 3D offset capability during circular interpolation

- completly new and more capable program and tool management

 

Dialog 4 last SW level 3.07

 


The scan below is from the 1985 Dialog 4 introduction brochure, but in the following years the Dialog 4 experienced some performance enhancements through SW and HW upgrades, so the below list is only the starting point for the Dialog 4 configuration evolvement.

Card Slot Layouts

Dialog 1
--------
Steuerung komplett............................6400 xx 002105 00
Bedienpultbaustein.............................6400 xx 002107 00
Monitorbaustein.................................6400 xx 002117 00
Akku.................................................6400 xx 002148 00
Lfter..................................................6400 xx 002115 00
Tastatur 1..........................................6400 xx 002108 00
Tastatur 2..........................................6400 xx 002109 00
NZP 58 Achsenzaehler......................6006 xx 100688 02
NRP 51 Rechner...............................6006 xx 100654 00
NEP 50 E-Promm Karte...................6006 xx 100660 00
NPP 50 Prozessor............................6006 xx 100652 00
NPP 51 Prozessor............................6006 xx 100651 00
NSP 54 Speicher..............................6006 xx 100650 00
NSI 51 Seriel Interface.....................6006 xx 100656 00
NCR 52 CRT Platte.........................6006 xx 100677 00
NSV 52 Netzteil...............................6006 xx 100657 00
NDM 51 Monitor Platte....................6006 xx 100658 00
NBP 53 Bedienpult...........................6006 xx 100659 01


Dialog 2
--------
Steuerung komplett.............................6400 xx 002210 00
Bedienpultbaustein..............................6400 xx 002211 00
Akku.................................................6400 xx 002148 00
Lfter..................................................6400 xx 002115 00
Tastatur 1.........................................6400 xx 002108 00
Tastatur 2.........................................6400 xx 002109 00
NRP 52 Rechner..............................6006 xx 100671 00
NEP 43 E-Prom Karte......................6006 xx 100673 00
NEP 51 E-Prom Karte......................6006 xx 100672 00
NPP 52 Prozessor.............................6006 xx 100674 00
NPP 53 Prozessor.............................6006 xx 100675 00
NSP 54 Speicher...............................6006 xx 100650 00
NSI 55 Seriel Interface......................6006 xx 100690 00
NCR 52 CRT Platte..........................6006 xx 100677 00
NSV 55 Netzteil................................6006 xx 100687 00
NDM 51 Monitor Platte.....................6006 xx 100658 00
NBP 53 Bedienpult.............................6006 xx 100659 01
NZP 58 Achsenzaehler.......................6006 xx 100688 02
Blendschutzrahmen.............................6400 xx 002213 00
Konzepthalter.....................................6400 xx 002118 00


Dialog 3
--------
Steuerung komplett............................6400 xx 002230 00
Bedienpultbaustein.............................6400 xx 002211 00
Akku................................................6400 xx 002148 00
Luefter..............................................6400 xx 002115 00
Tastatur 1.........................................6400 xx 002108 00
Tastatur 2.........................................6400 xx 002109 00
NRP 53 Rechner..............................6006 xx 100679 00
NEP 43 E-Prom Karte.....................6006 xx 100673 00
NEP 51 E-Prom Karte.....................6006 xx 100672 00
NPP 52 Prozessor............................6006 xx 100674 00
NPP 53 Prozessor............................6006 xx 100675 00
NSP 54 Speicher..............................6006 xx 100650 00
NSI 55 Seriel Interface......................6006 xx 100690 00
NCR 52 CRT Platte..........................6006 xx 100677 00
NSV 55 Netzteil...............................6006 xx 100687 00
NDM 51 Monitor Platte....................6006 xx 100658 00
NBP 53 Bedienpult...........................6006 xx 100659 01
NZP 58 Achsenz„hler.......................6006 xx 100688 02
NHP 50 Handradkarte.....................6006 xx 100686 00
Blendschutzrahmen...........................6400 xx 002213 00
Konzepthalter...................................6400 xx 002118 00


Dialog 4
--------
Steuerung komplett....................................6400 xx 002240 00
Bedienpultbaustein.....................................6400 xx 002211 01   
Akku........................................................6400 xx 002148 00
Lfter.........................................................6400 xx 002115 00
Monitorbaustein.......................................6400 xx 002117 00
Tastatur I.................................................6400 xx 002257 00
Tastatur II................................................6400 xx 002258 00
NRP 53 Rechner......................................6006 xx 100679 00
NBP 53 Bedienpult (Drehschalter)............6006 xx 100659 01
NMP 52 Masterkarte...............................6006 xx 007004 00
NSI 56 Seriel Interface.............................6006 xx 007006 00
NCR 53 CRT Platte.................................6006 xx 007005 00
NSV 56 Netzteil.......................................6006 xx 100687 01
NDM 51 Monitor Platte...........................6006 xx 100658 00
NZP 59 Achsenz„hler...............................6006 xx 007013 00
NZP 59D Achsenz„hler (Digitalisieren)......6006 30 007015 00
NZP 60 Achsenz„hler fr Rundtische..........6006 xx 007014 00
NHP 51 Handradkarte.............................6006 xx 100686 01
NEP 52 E-Prom Karte.............................6006 xx 100696 00
NEP 52A E-Prom Karte (DNC-Betrieb)..6006 xx 007049 00
NPP 54 Master Prozessor.......................6006 xx 007008 00
NPP 55 Master Prozessor.......................6006 xx 007009 00
NPP 55A Master Prozessor (DNC-Betrieb)........6006 xx 007048 00
NSP 55 Speicher 256K..........................6006 xx 007007 00
NSP 56 Speicher 512K..........................6400 xx 002249 01
NSP 56 Speicher  1MB..........................6400 xx 002283 00


Contour 1
---------
Steuerung komplett.....................................6400 xx 002220 00  
Bedienpultbaustein.....................................6400 xx 002221 00
Akku.....................................................    6400 04 002148 00
Lfter........................................                       6400 xx 002115 00
Tastatur 1 ( oben )...........................            6400 xx 002108 00
Tastatur 2 ( unten )..........................            6400 xx 002109 00
NRP 52 Rechner................................        6006 xx 100671 00
NEP 43 E-Prom Karte...........................    6006 xx 100673 00
NEP 51 E-Prom Karte...........................    6006 xx 100672 00
NPP 52 Prozessor..............................        6006 xx 100674 00
NPP 53 Prozessor..............................        6006 xx 100675 00
NSP 54 Speicher...............................        6006 xx 100650 00
NSI 55 Seriel Interface.......................        6006 xx 100690 00
NCR 52 CRT Platte.............................        6006 xx 100677 00
NSV 55 Netzteil...............................        6006 xx 100687 00
NDM 51 Monitor Platte.........................    6006 xx 100658 00
NBP 53 Bedienpult Drehschalter................6006 xx 100659 01
NBP 54 Bedienpult.............................        6006 xx 100692 00
NZP 58 Achsenz„hler...........................        6006 xx 100688 02


Contour 2
---------
Steuerung komplett............................        6400 xx 002222 00
Bedienpultbaustein............................        6400 xx 002221 00
Akku..........................................            6400 04 002148 00
Lfter........................................                6400 xx 002115 00
Tastatur 1 ( oben )...........................        6400 xx 002108 00
Tastatur 2 ( unten )..........................        6400 xx 002109 00
NRP 53 Rechner................................        6006 xx 100679 00
NEP 43 E-Prom Karte...........................6006 xx 100673 00
NEP 51 E-Prom Karte...........................6006 xx 100672 00
NPP 52 Prozessor..............................    6006 xx 100674 00
NPP 53 Prozessor..............................    6006 xx 100675 00
NSP 54 Speicher...............................    6006 xx 100650 00
NSI 55 Seriel Interface.......................    6006 xx 100690 00
NCR 52 CRT Platte.............................6006 xx 100677 00
NSV 55 Netzteil...............................    6006 xx 100687 00
NDM 51 Monitor Platte.........................6006 xx 100658 00
NBP 53 Bedienpult Drehschalter................6006 xx 100659 01
NBP 54 Bedienpult.............................    6006 xx 100692 00
NZP 58 Achsenz„hler...........................    6006 xx 100688 02
NHP 50 Handradkarte...........................    6006 xx 100686 00
Blendschutzrahmen.............................    6400 xx 002213 00
Konzepthalter.................................        6400 xx 002118 00
Elektronisches Handrad........................    2280 xx 000324 00


Contour 3
---------
Steuerung komplett............................    6400 xx 002280 00
Bedienpultbaustein............................    6400 xx 002221 00   
Akku..........................................        6400 04 002148 00
Lfter........................................            6400 xx 002115 00
Monitorbaustein...............................    6400 xx 002117 00
Tastatur I ( oben )...........................    6400 xx 002257 00
Tastatur II ( unten ).........................    6400 xx 002258 00
NRP 53 Rechner................................6006 xx 100679 00
NBP 53 Bedienpult (Drehschalter)......6006 xx 100659 01
NBP 54 Bedienpult ............................6006 xx 100692 00
NMP 52 Masterkarte..........................6006 xx 007004 00
NSI 56 Seriel Interface.......................6006 xx 007006 00
NCR 53 CRT Platte...........................6006 xx 007005 00
NSV 56 Netzteil...............................6006 xx 100687 01
NDM 51 Monitor Platte.....................6006 xx 100658 00
NZP 59 Achsenz„hler..........................6006 xx 007013 00
NHP 51 Handradkarte........................6006 xx 100686 01
NPP 54 Master Prozessor...................6006 xx 007008 00
NPP 55 Master Prozessor...................6006 xx 007009 00
NSP 56 Speicher 128K.......................6006 xx 100693 00
NSP 56 Speicher 256K.......................6006 xx 007007 00
Akku fr NSP xx ....................................591000 15
elo. Handrad..................................    2280 xx 000324 00


PC 1
----
Komplett......................................        6400 xx 002150 00
NSV 80 Netzteil...............................    6006 xx 100640 00
NPP 80 Prozessor..............................6006 xx 100641 00
NEA 80 Ein/Ausgabe............................6006 xx 100642 00
NE  80 Eingabe................................    6006 xx 100643 00

PC 2
----
Komplett......................................        6400 xx 002151 00
NSV 90 Netzteil...............................    6006 xx 100664 00
NPP 90 Prozessor..............................    6006 xx 100665 00
NPP 91 Prozessor..............................    6006 xx 100667 00
NEA 90 Ein/Ausgabe............................6006 xx 100663 00
NE  90 Eingabe................................    6006 xx 100662 00
NDA 90 Analog Baustein........................6006 xx 100666 00

 

Below brochure describes a Dialog 4, but shows an older Dialog (note keypads)